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Old 04-26-2007, 12:33 AM
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Now this is a pro talking....he is waiting for the river for his hand??????????????









It is a pivotal point in the tournament, which I have been patiently waiting for. Blinds are 200/400 and I have 11,000 in chips – roughly the average chipstack. Benjamin Kang limped in MP1 (mid-position), Jan Heitmann limped at the cutoff and Marcel Luske also limped from the button. Andrea Wirth (SB) calls.

“I looked down and was faced with AQ spades. On the big blind, I raised to 2,000. Ben and Jan come for the ride and the others fold. The flop hits - 2s-4s-6d. Without hesitation, I smack the all-in, betting far too much for the pot. Benjamin folds and Jan, after taking an eternity to decide, calls.

“Jan flips 99, which has me beat at the moment, but with the turn and river still to come, I am not unduly worried. The turn brings a K, which doesn't help either of us but the river is the seven of spades, giving me the nut flush and the biggest pot of the tournament so far.

“The example shows the classic Semi bluff. If both players fold, I collect a 6,800 pot, which brings me far over the average. If one or both call, I still have 15 outs on the turn and 15 on the river to win the showdown, which corresponds to about 54%. If I win the showdown, I subsequently possess almost one quarter of the chips currently in circulation, providing me with an excellent strategic position in the tournament.

“Together with the fold equity, I therefore placed an excellent bet. These are exactly the situations that I seek in the tournament. Even if I get knocked out in the hand, the unavoidable confrontation here is the much better alternative than playing passively: simply leaving the pot as small as possible and then betting big only once I’ve hit a decent hand.


“If I wait for Jan to represent a hand, I lose all of my own fold equity and the bet is losing enormously on value. As you all know, exactly therein lays the strength of the Semi bluff.”
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:24 AM
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Hello Ruth,

I'm definetly no pro but here is the comment from an amateur:
Nice bet for sure, well played.
The only thing I see a bit different is the number of outs that you have. IF someone will call you he will have a good enough hand to do this, maybe an overpair (which possibly could be slowplayed QQ or KK) or even 3 of a kind. Both kinds of hands are not very likely if if you consider the first round of betting but they are still possible.
And any other pair has still a few outs with a redraw for trips if A or Q hit. In the actual constellation the 9s or 6s on the turn can't be counted as 100% outs as they both give your opponent (small) chances for a full-house redraw. So I would reduce the number of outs I would give this hand a little bit. But even if you reduce your estimated chances in a possible showdown from your optimistic 54% to in my opinion more realistic 50% or even to very pessimistic 45% the good chance to collect the pot without a showdown still makes your bet a very profitable one.
Thumbs up.

Good luck at the tables,

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Old 08-19-2007, 03:56 AM
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i dont know if thats pro talk ....there r alot of pros on poker sites that play poker for a living...
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Old 01-07-2008, 08:56 PM
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Mmmmh quite risky play, personally I'd never push it all in without a concrete point, expecially if a big raise can get everyone out of the end as well, because I always wanna try to leave me the opportunity to stay in the game with some chips if I don't get the nuts.
Yet I've benn watching pro live games more than usual recently and I've seen that most of them play very aggressive and loose and this strategy often pays sooner or later
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well i personaly wouldnt bet

unless i decided to bet

then i wudda bet

but i wudda bet a different bet to the bet he bet

my bet wudda been a better bet i bet ?

i realy think he bet the wrong bet by betting when he bet ..

so i know that he knows that the bet he bet was a totaly wrong bet to bet when he knew what he knew when he knew not to bet a bet like that bet ..

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