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Old 08-25-2006, 02:25 PM
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Hi all

Never had a list of the top starting hands - and I'm not even sure that this list is korrect. Could someone check it...?

Personally I'll make a scheme, where I can add each time I play one of them - and the end results (Win/loose).








1
A-A

2
K-K

3
Q-Q

4
J-J

5
A-K suited

6
10-10

7
A-K

8
A-Q suited

9
K-Q suited

10
A-Q

11
9-9

12
K-Q

13
A-J suited

14
8-8

15
Q-J suited

16
J-10 suited

17
K-Q

18
A-J

19
K-J

20
Q-J

21
7-7

22
6-6

23
5-5

24
4-4

25
3-3

26
2-2

27
A-10

28
K-10

29
Q-10

30
J-10

31
A-9 suited

32
A-8 suited

33
A-7 suited

34
A-6 suited

35
10-9 suited

36
9-8 suited

37
J-9 suited

38
8-7suited

39
7-6 suited
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Old 08-25-2006, 02:51 PM
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I'll also post the article it's taken from..:

Best starting hands in No Limit Hold'em



The biggest mistake beginning poker players make is with their starting hands. In fact, most poker "fish" are surprised to find out that there is actually a system for picking starting hands. They will play almost any face card, no matter what the second card is.

In some ways, poker is a bit like dating. The better the "car" you show up in, the better chance you have of getting lucky. The same is true with starting hands.

Rolls-Royces 1-3
1. A-A
2. K-K
3. Q-Q


These are the best of the best hands in NL Hold'em. All three of these hands are ones you can feel fairly confident going "all-in" before the flop. The odds will be on your side.

Mercedes 4-6
1. J-J
2. A-K suited
3. 10-10


You should feel good if you pick up any of these three hands. The chances of someone having something better before the flop are slim. Go ahead and put a good pre-flop raise out there. If you chase everyone off, so be it. But beware, the value of these hands can diminish depending on what the board yields. If over cards, pairs, flush or straight draws materialize, you need to protect your cards with a big raise, or fold and fight another day.

Cadillacs 7-9
1. A-K
2. A-Q suited
3. K-Q suited


These are good hands, but all three can be tricky to play. A pre-flop protection raise is a good way to play them. Keep your eyes open after the flop for draws and over cards. With A-Q suited, you have a lot of ways to make your hand, but be careful if just an ace comes out, someone may have A-K or two pair with the ace. The same applied to K-Q suited.

Chryslers 10-16
1. A-Q
2. 9-9
3. K-Q
4. A-J suited
5. 8-8
6. Q-J suited
7. J-10 suited


Some good hands need a little help. All of these hands are worth raising with, but they need a little bit of help to be really strong. For example, a pair of eights is in trouble if an over card comes out on the flop. But get a third eight and bingo-bongo-bango, to borrow a phrase from Mike Sexton.

Mustangs 17-26
1. K-Q
2. A-J
3. K-J
4. Q-J
5. 7-7
6. 6-6
7. 5-5
8. 4-4
9. 3-3
10. 2-2


Any of these hands can get better with just a little bit of luck. With the pairs, you are looking for three of a kind, or "trips", to come out on the flop or you should be ready to ditch them if someone bets into you. The general rule with face cards is you want them to match up with other face cards in order to play them before the flop. In other words, Q-J is playable, while Q-6 is a hand that most players should fold.

Saturns 27-39
1. A-10
2. K-10
3. Q-10
4. J-10
5. A-9 suited
6. A-8 suited
7. A-7 suited
8. A-6 suited
9. 10-9 suited
10. 9-8 suited
11. J-9 suited
12. 8-7suited
13. 7-6 suited


Play these hands at your own risk. All can get really good in a hurry. But all of them can be worthless in a hurry as well. If you can get a cheap flop, all are worth hanging around to see if you hit a jackpot like a nut flush or a straight with the list of connectors.

The bottom line is have a plan. If you're just starting out or playing in your first tournament, you might want to limit yourself to the top three categories on this list. As you feel more comfortable or as the field gets smaller, you could loosen up to include all of these hands. Only if you've found a pigeon at your table or if you're down to heads up should you play many hands that you don't see here.

Good luck and be careful out there
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I played online poker for about a year and read an article that 27o is the worst hand in poker. It made me realize that I was wasting a lot of chips from the SB and BB calling with junk hands. I have since plugged those holes and am doing much better.
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You can win playing junk cards, but it requires, among other things,skill and heart. The skill part involves being able to outplay your opponents after the flop so as to win more than your share of pots when no one has much of a hand. The heart part involves being willing to call and raise with mediocre hands to put yourself in position to outplay them later on.
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Dont take this wrong mate - but u CANT outplay anyone with the NUT hand. Thats the KEY in No Limit Hold'em... getting the NUT hand - and play on that.

U know - sitting with 56 on bb and the flop shows 234... aint that just great? And u just HOPE that someone is holding A5.
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yea mate it is great wen that happens. i love it wen ur playin and u know uve got the best hand but someone else has wat they think is the best hand. you just sit and bet and then they go all in and suddenly uve doubled your chips lol, it's a great feeling.
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I think this is a good post info for every1, i will give u some mana for this post



this is a must read thread
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i agree mate this post can come in very handy which it has done for me. nice post mate, well thought up to start this and help out others who are just learning the game.
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I think this is a good post info for every1, i will give u some mana for this post



this is a must read thread
lol... Thanks mate - ya welcome and I hope it will make your play just that bit better than your opponents.
- but trust me - the tricky part is to restrain yourself to play ONLY say top 16 hands, all the way thru a tournament. Like 2½ hours from start till you reach final table.

Patience is the tricky part.
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:49 PM
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Very informative post stigd !!



clearly defines where you stand with your opening cards :P



will copy and save for future use
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