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Old 11-06-2008, 02:46 AM
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Default Here is a really bad call I think

I gotta post this one
It is not in my hand history
so I am gonna give you a brief summery as It is all in pre-flop action.

New Player $50 Freeroll @ wass Poker
BLinds are 50-100

I am on the Button
A am Dealt Ah-Kh
I have about 2700 in chips

1rst pos Folds UTG
2nd Folds
3rd Calls for 100
4th folds sittting out
5th Calls for 100
6th Folds
Button Moves all in for 2700
Sb folds 50 to pot
BB folds 100 to pot
3rd position folds 100 to pot
5th position calls for 1200 more a total of 1300 out of his stack
pot size 2850 main pot size and 1400 side pot to be returned uncalled
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ClownboyRX has Ah-Kh
5th position show Jc-10d
Folp comes
(Ad Qs 8d)
Turn comes (Ad Qs 8d)(9s)
Riner Comes (Ad Qs 8d 9s) (3s)
Hand results 5th position wins 2850 main pot
1400 is returned to ClownboyRX uncalled.
I know I Played this one right pre-flop.
Is with a bad call on the opponents side?
Or do I have to go back to Poker School LOL
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:50 AM
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Well ..... I wouldn't have gone all in with AK , but you certainly should raise.
If it wasn't a freeroll the other guy wouldn't have called.

Still overall the same outcome is definately a good chance.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:35 PM
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Default Personally I feel it was a no brain fold

A-K suited is without a doubt the best drawing hand you can Get.
I Usually hope to be Called by A-Q or A-J suited after going all in pre-flop. The reason I went over the top with the all in push is because I did put everyone on a lot of Fairly marginal hands.
I thought A pair would be the worse case senario.
But I suggest to everyone who would ever be in this spot the opponent was in to fold unless they have a Pocket Pair or A-K , A-Q. Calling with less than A-K is very Questioable.

If you gotta call an all in with J-10 you gotta be on a really short stack or in danger of being blinded out which is not the case in this senario.
The all in is to simply try to pick up the pot. If I'm called with A-K suited I have a chance to draw the top possible pairs.
The only time all in with A-K suited is a bad play is when you bet into
Pocket Ks or As Even against Queens or any lower pair preflop you have a live chance to Draw out with Big Slickster.
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:07 AM
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THe guy only had 1300 in chips with blinds at 50/100. He only has four times around the table before he is out of chips. All in pre-flop with a few limpers is usually a bluff with a weak. Your short stacked opponent mya have thought there is some chance he has two overs or he a 2 to 1 dog and takes a gamble. I think pushing all in with A-K is a marginal play at best.
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:27 AM
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what pushing all in with AK suited is marginal yet calling with J 10 os is acceptible. Yeah right.
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:35 PM
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what pushing all in with AK suited is marginal yet calling with J 10 os is acceptible. Yeah right.
I think calling with J 10 is a better move than pushing all in when you have A-K and position, unless your goal is to pick up 350 chips with a premium hand and position. Most of the time the only hands that will call will be at least a 55-45 favorite over the A-K .

As for calling with J-10, he's calling 1200 into a 1650 pot so he's getting the right odds to call against any hands other than a pair of Jacks or better. Most people with Jacks or better aren't going to push from the button when only limpers in the pot. So his call is a better play than the guy who pushes with AK with no chips in the pot when he likely has the best hand and the best position.
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Default I am thinking J-10os is a marginal call

If you are gonna be successful when playing in a freeroll you have to consider most of the players will call you with any 2 and hope to out draw you. I must say that going all in with suited A-K however would be considered a great move. I have won a many of tourney playing the Big slickster after flopping the top pair. If going all in and hitting top pair with top kicker is a marginal play what is considered stupid?
I think that anyone who has any reading ability should know that the were a chasing the better hand. This is only my opinion however, I am not here to tell anyone how to play they cards the choose to.
No misunderstandings but allin in Position with A-K suited is a good move in my book.
To each his own as they say.
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