Here is an odd hand

[Clownboy R]

Im Playing in a freeroll there are about 15 Left of 158 prize pool starts @ 20th place so the bubble has already burst.
Does it pay to call in this position.
I threw the Donk All in bluff with the Flush draw after the flop in order to try to pick up the pot after getting the nut flush draw on the flop and sensing serious weakness.
I know that I way overplayed this hand I just figured He would need a hand to call Right///Wrong....
I will use generic names for the players as I don't recall them all.
Heres the majority of the play by plaay as I have a real hard time getting the Hands Histories @ Carbon poker I will do my best and only show the chip stacks that are involved in the pot.
$25 Freeroll with satellite for the top prize.
8 handed
Blinds are 500-1000
no antie yet
ClownboyR is on the button with 10200
Player1 is SB 500 with 4050
Player2 is BB 1000 with 29400
player3 is UTG with 12020
Player4 is in 2nd position
Pot size 1500
Clownboy is Dealt Ad-4d
Player3 Raises to 2000 Utg
Players5-8 all Fold on the Pre-flop so positions and chip counts are more or less irrealivent.
ClownboyR Calls 2000
Player1 folds the SB
Player2 Calls from the BB for 1000

3 Players in the pot
Pot size 6500
Flop Comes
(5d-3s-Jd)

Player3 checks
Player1 checks
ClownboyR Goes All-in for 8200
Player3 calls 8200
Player 1 folds.
Heads up Pot size 22900
Showdown
ClownboyR has Ad-4d
Player3 has Ac-9h
Board cards (5d-3s-Jd) Turn comes (Ks) River Comes (10s)
Player3 wins the pot.

I know I overplayed this I just don't really see myself calling in the other players shoes holding the cards he was holding.
I kinda played it like a loose cannon being that the Blinds were getting pretty big.
Tell me if you think I played this right Going over the top or if I should of Shyed away from it.
I honestly put him on a weak hand thats why I pushed.
This is a rare time you will see the Clown Go in With The All-in Semi Bluff NutFlush and Gut Shot Str8 Draw.
It didn't pan out but Late in tourneys you have to be a little more aggressive I think.

[dippyda]

Not sure I would have called the min raise pre-flop with a suited A, although your position is good. I suppose it depends on what folding would get you? Normally in these you want to win and not place as the money for placing is small (50c) so just waiting for excellent hands wont make much of a difference to your winnings as you will most likely still finish with the same money. You only have an M of around 5 here so a better option would have been to go all-in BUT with the min-raise you should probably fold and wait for a better opportunity.

Don't really see any problem with your move on the flop.
Nut flush draw and gutsshot draw... with 2 cards to come gives you about a 50:50 shot of winning with the advantage of being the aggressor it may not even be called and you take it down there and then.

Why he called... because he is a fish who cannot put down A high.
On a 2 diamond board with his only real hope of winning, (assuming) you did not bluff, being an A or running 9s he should fold but either he thought you were bluffing or decided what the hell and hoped he got very lucky and that you were on the draw. Risky move on his part I would say. He just got lucky!

[Clownboy R]

Personally I would have folded my hand with the huge draw and 11 or 12 outs post-flop to the all-in raise. I couldn't really fold the hand getting almost 2-1 on the pre-flop. I thought about laying it down but I figuerd lets see a flop. Mini-raises don't really scare anyone as I was gonna mini-raise myself 2 sweeten the pot a bit.
Whenever you have a suited ace and are down 2 about 10 times the big blind I usually loosen it up a bit.
If I had about 20-25K in chips I probubly coulda shyed away from it;however this was not the case.
Yeah I think the call was bad but I really try not to understand the why and focus on the when. I usually don't push all-in without at least top pair. I thought I would push them out with the Check Check on the post-flop the bully move didn't work. This was a rare Bluff that didn't pan out. I usually only pull the All-in SemiBluff with the Nut Draw about 1 in 10 times I am in this spot.
Thanks for the reply

Originally Posted by Clownboy R

Personally I would have folded my hand with the huge draw and 11 or 12 outs post-flop to the all-in raise. I couldn't really fold the hand getting almost 2-1 on the pre-flop. I thought about laying it down but I figuerd lets see a flop. Mini-raises don't really scare anyone as I was gonna mini-raise myself 2 sweeten the pot a bit.
Whenever you have a suited ace and are down 2 about 10 times the big blind I usually loosen it up a bit.
If I had about 20-25K in chips I probubly coulda shyed away from it;however this was not the case.
Yeah I think the call was bad but I really try not to understand the why and focus on the when. I usually don't push all-in without at least top pair. I thought I would push them out with the Check Check on the post-flop the bully move didn't work. This was a rare Bluff that didn't pan out. I usually only pull the All-in SemiBluff with the Nut Draw about 1 in 10 times I am in this spot.
Thanks for the reply

totoly agree..but its yeasy now, is diferedn on ral

[Clownboy R]

Originally Posted by qkis

totoly agree..but its yeasy now, is diferedn on ral

Yup Hind site is always 20/20
I usually don't play this way however; getting punished for making a good read is pretty common place in the game of poker.

I think the person who called was in a desperation mode cuz no way I coulda called that holding A-9os maybe if he had K-9 of Diamonds but who am I to say.
I just thought it would be neat for every1 see the CLownboy Fishing on a silly draw for once.
The play I made is Semi-pro @ best. I think a more seasoned player woulda got out of the way.
lol

I find that in freerolls it is hard to get many people to lay down their weak hands with a flop bluff or continuation bet. I have found more sucess betting on the flop, the turn and the river if necessary. Accordingly, I don't do much bluffing or semi-bluffing while I am on a short stack.

One thing you didn't include in your hand history was what you thought of the skill level of players in the pot. Just remember you can't push someone off a hand if they don't have the skill to fold when they are probably beat.

[Wakou222]

fold or shove pre..., I'm folding here. Post flop the shove is correct IMHO, villain's called is very bad indeed. Mind you in such a small value tourney, logic is often absent.

[Clownboy R]

Originally Posted by Wakou222

fold or shove pre..., I'm folding here. Post flop the shove is correct IMHO, villain's called is very bad indeed. Mind you in such a small value tourney, logic is often absent.

I agree with this to much not to lose especially in a freeroll, I think that the caller wanted to hit the rail or just felt like gambling.
As for the Skill level it would be Moderate not Great.
To many novice learners and up in coming fish to actually have some kind of poker discipline know what I mean.

I know I played the hand sorta poorly yet I know the player who called this has a great deal of learning in order to understand what we know already.
Poker is a game of skill
Pressing on the weakness and
protecteting the strength
Holding on to the best hand is a whole other ball game.
I think the caller had no clue where he was in the hand, yet thats only my opinion.

[thejudge]

Given that you're looking to win this rather than place and looking at the texture of the flop ( I would only expect to be called by the AJ, KJ or pkt pair that fits) I would have done exactly what u did.

[Clownboy R]

Yup even in the $30 live tourneys I play in I have a friend who plays a lot of tourneys he say's " To win you got to win a race or two." I think that is true if you want to rely on luck.
I don't believe in luck I think that the skill of reading and the patience to move on the weakness is a better method ,SLowly but Surely right.
I realize it takes a lil bit of so called luck;however,Even in the buy ins I notice a lot of people don't respect a legitamate raise or all-in push.
I personally think I play a little tight and the move I made in the said hand is totally out of character of the norm or standard that I usually play.
I do this in total desperation, yet it seems some players play in that mode The whole game,
I guess thats where the term "Donk" Came form.