Chipleader to bubble?

[kliphard]

I don't think there is anything more frustrating than going from chipleader to bubble.

Anyone got some good advice on how to stay as chipleader and or on the best way to get rid of the small stack mainly in regards to regular 10man sit'n go's.

I'm starting to think it's best just to steal blinds from the mid stacks as they will hopefully have tightened up as I do when there is a low stack.

I just find it frustrating when no 1 is taking on the small stack and before you know it his stack has now grown to a mid stack and when i do take him on i seem to lose frikkin drives me mad maybe it's best to just sit tight and wait and hopefully someone else finally gets decent cards to call or till someone else gets blinded to small stack.

I was going to have a nice afternoon of poker till this happened and now i've been thrown totally off

[germanfalcon]

Some hand histories would be helpful.

Sitting it out would not be useful. You want to finish first and not just ITM.

Normally aggressive play is the key when being chipleader on the bubble phase. But its a huge difference between agressive and agressive. Its also a good idea to feed the poor and pick on the middle stacks.

[kliphard]

Originally Posted by germanfalcon

Some hand histories would be helpful.

Sitting it out would not be useful. You want to finish first and not just ITM.

Normally aggressive play is the key when being chipleader on the bubble phase. But its a huge difference between agressive and agressive. Its also a good idea to feed the poor and pick on the middle stacks.

I was in BB 200 low stack went all in with 590 so i called 390 with a 2 7 think i was a bit too optimistic id have over 6000 chips though i later raised small stack with k9 which practically put him all in he went all in i called he had A10 this did however bring back to a mid stack everything else was just blind stealing a had quite a few crap hands lost some bb's finally to go allin with 88 by now the bb's were ridiculous and i lost to a qq.

I'm quite interested in what u said about feed the poor pick on the middle stacks , as in like steal blinds from them or call and bet at flop and don't steal from the small stack possibly fold yr bb if small stack raises?

Think i will try this sounds like a good plan

[germanfalcon]

The shortstack must be picky with his hands and is hoping some of the middle stacks makes a wrong move.

The middle stacks dont want to mess with the chip leader most of the time. So playing back at them when they try to steal the blinds is a effective way to remain the chip lead and to enlarge the chiplead.

The bubble phase is your friend while being chipleader because u can crush every player at the table and so you want to strech it as long as possible.

When the bubble phase is over the middle stacks can play more freely because now they have money secure and can gain more than loose.

[arjonius]

I try, not always successfully, to consider the players as well as the stacks. For example, some people are too timid when they have small stacks, which means it's easier to bully them than others with the same stacks.

[Clownboy R]

I Like to Play a large stack but the best stratigy I would say is to play good starting hands in on the button in the SB or the BB. You tend to keep your stack in tact if you limit the amounts of pots you unessisarily get involed in.
I avoid short stacks unless I have a Premium starting hand like
Poket A-A
or K-K or Q-Q. These hands are worth investing in out of position otherwise see a cheap flop if possible with other great hands like A-K or A-Q or A-J possibly aCe ten or a smaller pair than the first three hands stated earlier.
Play tight and only good hands try to build the stack rather than squandering it tring to out play the kamakazi.

[crazyfool]

Dam i gotta try stealing from the middle stacks maybe thats what I'm doing wrong. Whenever I raise to take the short stacks blinds (usually a decent but not great hand) the move in and have me dominated, but I'm pot committed and lose.

[Clownboy R]

Yup the best advice is to avoid getting involed against the short stack, as the person playin a short stack is in desperation mode and have to take a huge risk to try to double up.
The wounded animal is far mor dangerous than the comfortable ones.
Ironicly it is easyier to steal from a person with more than enough chips to take the blinds.
These are the players who don't have to risk to much so be aware if a middle or large stack re-raises or calls a play you might make keep in mind they probubly are holding something good as they don't nessisarily have to take a risk.
Where as the player on the brink will probubly go in with any Ace or Pair. Which means you cannot bluff them out you gonna have to win the Showdown.
Anyhow hope this helps keep your big stacks in tact.

[bakoyCD]

What I notice that mainly happens to chipleaders/bigstacks is that they get too confident, and start trying to win every hand, bcus they have bluffing power, or bcus they are comfortable with losing a few thousand chips. that's the big big mistake. you have to keep playing as you normally would as a middle stack, mind your own business, and not try to win every hand

If you have more than 24 times the big blind, you are considered a bigstack player. In this case, you should play very few but strong hands, because you don't want to risk your precious chips over some worthless hand.

Someone said before that you want to be first, and not only in the money. Well, of course this is anyone's goal, but be sure to be at least in the money before risking your chips. Once you're in, you can start risking a bit more.