Taking down the pot early

[goopxx]

Say you raise preflop with AK. You get one or two callers and the flop comes K74 rainbow. You bet say a 2/3 to a full pot. Both calls.

Why did the villains called the preflop raise in the first place? Do they call every raise or only when they have something good?

Why did they call you on the flop? Do you almost always c-bet on the flop or do you only bet when you hit something?

What type of hands would the villains call the flop bet with? Would they raise with two pair or more, would they raise a draw? Would they fold if they have less than any of the above? Would they call down to the river with any two cards?

How big are the stacks?

What do they think you have, based on this play and earlier hands?

How are you going to continue on the turn and river when something that completes a draw comes. When a blank comes?

This things and much, much more should be constantly going through your mind every single hand you play.

It's not easy, but you really have to think about what you and the other players are doing and act accordingly. Then you have to decide if you are going to fold, call or raise. And if you decide to bet: bet the amount that accomplishes your goal for the given hand. No more, no less.



I am tired so I write way too much instead of trying to answer your question in a simple way :-)


Don't fall in love with your two cards! In my experience TPTK and similar hands, shouldn't be played as the nuts. I have lost a LOT of money on those hands, before I realized that people very rarely make big raises against the preflop raiser(me) on a board where it's obvious that I have TPTK or maybe even an overpair. If I meet too much resistance with a TPTK-kind of hand without much additional outs, and I have no specific reads that tells me that the villain is a complete idiot, I'll try to get out and wait for a better situation. This have saved me a lot of money.

[welshy77]

YET ANOTHER COPY AND PASTE - SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM

[mosa]

not even a coherent copy and paste

indeed
but the content of the message is interesting.
It's so true that TPTK is not a hand to call an allin raise with
So many people loose money with such hand.

Of course you have to get out the way if a limper PF is raising you big on the flop or the turn.

Obviously this advice is for cash game only. In tournaments and SNGs it can be different depending of the blinds size

Respect

[mosa]

I'm still trying to work out what the hell TPTK is

Nope i'm tired and my brain hurts bugger it

[mad4cards]

Originally Posted by mosa

I'm still trying to work out what the hell TPTK is

Nope i'm tired and my brain hurts bugger it

TPTK= top pair top kicker i.e. he flopped his king and ahd an ace kicker. by the way this post is nonsense... if you get too scared to push TPTK you shouldn't be playing poker IMO.

[mosa]

thanks for clearing that up and i agree absolutely about the content being rubbish

[hrobakca]

it does happen quite often though you think you have the best and some donk is playing a crap hand and busts you so with tptk tread lightly you could already be dead money

Chris

In tournament play its all about stack sizes, what time in game and what reads/styles the opponent have. Even buy in can have a changing players styles in a curtain tournament.

I can easy see someone in late pos trying to hit of with a K7, 45 etc bu they can also have like KQ KJ and backdoor flush.
But as someone said here, u almost got ot push with AK their, all in on turn and take the pot their. if someone wanna go with their KQ or draw, let them. u get really good odds to win it and take alot of chips.

[katymaty]

With the above example if someone was constanly calling your raises you have to go all in, if they happen to have flopped a set or donked 2 pairs then so be it.

If the Flop was Ace 8 clubs 2 clubs it may be different because alot of donkeys play with rag aces and if they start reraising your bets there's a better chance they have flopped 2 pairs whereas if the board was as above K74 they are less likely to have 2 pairs.