good at tournements-bad at ring game

i know is a diferent play (strategy) but i cant realise why im so bad at ring games and relatively fine at MTT & stngo

can anyone advise me, please???

[dreilly]

The reason you are bad at ring games is that you are used to tournament play and ring and tournament play require different "muscles", Tournament Play requires More Patience while cash games require more aggression and bluffing and is over the short run of time.

If you want to sucseed (not sure if i spelt it right) in cash games you need to learn more agression and how to value bet etc

Hope this Helps

dreilly

thanks for that

i will try to apply some of this ...or should i stick on MTT

Heres what i think.....

Maybe... and just maybe, some people do just fine at tournaments cause they play not so good hands, and because the blinds are not so high, they can make their project

In instead, in cash games, if you try to play those hands then you will lose a lot of money in the long run

I hope that was helpful if it was your case

whatever u do do not listen to dreillys advice, the one thing u always always always need is patience, it sounds like dreilly is looking to steal blinds quickly at ring games, probably leaves with nothing half the time. You really want a ton of patience at ring games, and i used to suck at em but now i prefer them to tourneys sometimes. The advantage u have at ring games is thet u arent going to be moved to another tables, and also people are playing for real money so it effects every player differently. Pay close attention to how they play, make extra note on how they react to reraises and if they try to steal every pot. Play tight if the tables loose, and more aggressive if the table is tight. Try and see cheap flops with small pairs and suited aces but dont chase big bets if you miss, but these will be the huge payouts if played properly.

[dangermouse420]

For ring games you need 3 things . . .

patience . . .

patience . . .

and patience.

Stick to group 1 and group 2 hands, play pp if you can get in cheap. The advantages of a ring game is that the blinds aren`t going up, and you aren`t being moved so if you concentrate on one table you should be able to get a good read on what type of player you are up against. Plus if you happen to get beaten you can always re-buy

I`m not going to say this is the only strategy for ring games, you can play loose aggressive, and should be willing to if you find yourself at a table full of rocks. Loose agressive players do profit at ring games but they take much greater swings during the course of play. If you can cope with that then go for it, but for me tight-aggressive works best.

Depending what stakes you are playing for most online players aren`t concentrating solely on their game, they are often multi-tabling or doing other things at the same time as playing. So a lot won`t notice if you aren`t playing many hands. Plus players will often play for only a short while because it is so easy to get a game. It`s not like they`ve had to drive to the casino, then wait for a seat.

If you are going to be sucessful at ring games you have to accept the fact that poker can be boring at times. So just wait for good cards and then play them hard. If you can win the first hand you get involved in then you are playing with someone elses money from that point onwards.

That being said ring games aren`t for everyone, most poker players tend to be good at either tournaments or ring games,. there aren`t that many that excell at both.

[Cille]

I have improved my game latly, but still not any big wins.

I have played some ring games and I do have to agree: patience.... patience is the clue here...... and instead of loosing money at the moment I'm slowly getting my bankrool up........ slowely.......:?

Cille

I agree with a lot of the points made here but the on thing I haven't seen mentioned is when to quit. I have played many ring games and have won a substantial amount - only to lose it all back. One of the biggest factors - I think - is to get up from the table when you have a large profit. That is my biggest problem I have with ring games. When I win I get greedy and end up paying for it in the long run. Even though there is skill involved in poker, there is also much luck, in other words you can't win forever. That being said, I still prefer tournaments over ring games, but I believe I can be successful at ring games if I just show a little more discipline.

[dreilly]

When to Quit: When you think you have extracted as much money as you can from the table...

[arjonius]

I think a consideration in terms of how to play ring games is a combination of the level you're playing at plus the ability level of the opponents. At least part of the reason patience worksquite nicely atmicro- and low limits is because the opponents will make quite a few mediocre and downright poor plays, which means you can simply wait for this to happen when you hold big hands. They won't always be paid off, but will be often enough for you to win consistently. As a previous post noted though, this can be rather dull poker.