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Old 11-04-2007, 02:08 AM
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Stage #961439431 Tourney ID 1896082 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $30 - 2007-10-28 1557 (ET)
Table: 1 (Real Money) Seat #1 is the dealer
Seat 1 - BUGSBYSAA ($2725 in chips)
Seat 2 - ASH4SIMONE ($4040 in chips)
Seat 3 - I BET U CALL ($1450 in chips)
Seat 4 - KALANA ($1350 in chips)
Seat 5 - ONEEYEDLEFTY ($3980 in chips)
Seat 6 - XBASSMAN58X ($1445 in chips)
Seat 7 - JK_KY ($1685 in chips)
Seat 8 - ALABAMATIDE4 ($1235 in chips)
Seat 9 - XXHOBIZZYXX ($705 in chips)
ASH4SIMONE - Posts small blind $15
I BET U CALL - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to XXHOBIZZYXX [Qs As]
KALANA - Folds
ONEEYEDLEFTY - Raises $120 to $120
XBASSMAN58X - Folds
JK_KY - Folds
ALABAMATIDE4 - Calls $120
XXHOBIZZYXX - Raises $240 to $240
BUGSBYSAA - Calls $240
ASH4SIMONE - Folds
I BET U CALL - Folds
ONEEYEDLEFTY - Calls $120
ALABAMATIDE4 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [9s Qd Ad]
ONEEYEDLEFTY - Checks
XXHOBIZZYXX - Checks
BUGSBYSAA - Checks
*** TURN *** [9s Qd Ad] [Qc]
ONEEYEDLEFTY - Checks
XXHOBIZZYXX - Bets $420
BUGSBYSAA - Folds
ONEEYEDLEFTY - Folds
XXHOBIZZYXX - returned ($420) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
XXHOBIZZYXX - Does not show
XXHOBIZZYXX Collects $885 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($885)
Board [9s Qd Ad Qc]
Seat 1: BUGSBYSAA (dealer) Folded on the TURN
Seat 2: ASH4SIMONE (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: I BET U CALL (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: KALANA Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: ONEEYEDLEFTY Folded on the TURN
Seat 6: XBASSMAN58X Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: JK_KY Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: ALABAMATIDE4 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: XXHOBIZZYXX collected Total ($885) HI$885) [Does not show]
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:28 AM
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It depends, obviously after the turn you definately dont wanna lose anyone, but I know there are times where my table image at a tourney my best bet is to come out and bet, the thing is when the board is paired people especially with paint people are way less likely to steal or make a play, (unless there hungarian or Bulgrian) I think you took a shot hoping to look like a bluff, it works sometimes sometimes it doesnt who knows it might have got checked all the way to the river anyways with same result... You got a decent pot anyways with the reraise and the threeway action preflop. keep up the good work.
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:37 AM
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I dont like ur raise preflop. The initial raiser made it 120 to go, with a raise to 240 u just increase the pot but dont limit the field. The pot odds are to good to fold. U are last to act why open a new betting round. If u are forced with a reraise u have to drop ur hand.

The check on the flop was unnecessary, make a bet half the pot mor 2/3 the pot. U were the initial aggressor preflop so lead out here. Make it like a continuation bet.

Why bet on the turn? U now have nearly the nuts, only two aces could beat u. The queen couldnt help ur opponents, so why scare them of now?

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Old 11-05-2007, 01:29 AM
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I also think the small reraise with AQ was strange, but the fact it didn;t seem to effect the result of the hand I left that out. I really dont like to reraise with AQ unless its a tourney and im shortstacked and im pushing all in with any bighand, for the reasons stated above and also many times AQ is way behind with tight players especially online. If I have a read on players raising with junk alot I still dont mind just calling the other two players because I look alot weaker, than I am if I hit.
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:22 PM
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the re raise is questionable but u will get away with it just this time cause of the flop. Your decision to check the flop though was...im not gonna lie ...it was fucked up. A draw heavy board like that and you're checking two pair?

Man please dont do that again. You're lucky you actually won the pot on the turn after you bet. If you bet on the turn though, chances are you would get alot more money from the other players as they are likely to be playing draws.

Im not Gonna lie again. You Played it Horribly. You never had conrol of the hand once and were gonna let the other players lead out. Thats what not to do kids!
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:13 PM
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I'm not a fan of the min-raise either. What does it accomplish? It's not enough to give you much fold equity. The original bettor is almost certain to call, and anyone acting after you who would call 120 is pretty likely to call 240. So, more often than not, you won't narrow the field, which is one of the goals of raising with such hands in such situations; AQ is a pretty vulnerable hand, so you're looking to get in a two-way pot with position. That means you should bet enough to discourage players after you from calling.

Also, while he doesn't know it, the opening bettor basically has pot odds to call with any two whether the third person calls the 240 or not. Giving people odds to call means your bet has a negative EV, which isn't generally a good way to play poker.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:20 PM
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i think you could have made a serious mistake trying to check on the flop. you could have at least made the minimum bet. by raising pre-flop you've already established some sort of hand and by checking the flop u've given your oppenents a chance to catch up.

Once you've made the full house then you could slow play it and wait for others to try and steal the pot on a bluff by re raising them. I think you also should have raised more to make it a two-way hand pre-flop. This way your opponent has a little bit of pot commitment and may be willing to call on the flop and the turn.
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i think trying to analyse these situations is difficult because how you play any hand can be dependant on the nature of the players on the table at the time...this is very early on as only 15/30 blinds and both players in this pot have increased their stacks conciderably...this would indicate they were either aggressive or lucky in which case i would have advised to make no bet at the turn and wait for them to attempt to steal the pot.....but ive been known to be wrong.....
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Yup i think you made the right move....people might question your preflop reraise but it showed your opponent that you had a real hand and when the A came on flop you would have knocked him off any pocket pair....just a call preflop and he may call your bet and hit a set on the turn.

Your bet on the flop was perfect....there was a flush draw out there so you had to protect your hand.....if he reraise u may be in trouble with QQ or AA or you may be ahead of AK or SIMILAR HAND
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Yup i think you made the right move....people might question your preflop reraise but it showed your opponent that you had a real hand and when the A came on flop you would have knocked him off any pocket pair....just a call preflop and he may call your bet and hit a set on the turn.

Your bet on the flop was perfect....there was a flush draw out there so you had to protect your hand.....if he reraise u may be in trouble with QQ or AA or you may be ahead of AK or SIMILAR HAND
i tend to agree with cod here if u wanted to play that hand to begin with.
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